[Info-ingres] Ingres + Terminal Emulation, What's best??

[M.Cressey]

Hi, I thought I'd start a new thread to ask these questions.



I use a PC to access our Solaris box which has Ingres installed.



What's the best terminal emulation software to use? Is there any
decent free software?



What are the best TERM_INFO settings to sensibly map the PC's keyboard
into something usable in the ingres character based visual tools?



I'm sure I've seen ISQL in colour when I was on a course at CA a few
years back, how was this achieved?



Your opinions please!



Cheers,



Michael

[Croker, Grant]

PuTTY (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/) works well for
me. It's free and comes with SSH support. Using vt100f for TERM_INGRES,
the numeric key pad maps to the Ingres function keys with the top row doi
ng PF1-PF4. I have not seen any FRS stuff in colour, without something li
ke CACI's Upfront, although I guess you could mess with the termcap we su
pply to achieve that effect.

grant

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Subject: [Info-ingres] Ingres + Terminal Emulation, What's best??

Hi,   I thought I'd start a new thread to ask these questions.

I use a PC to access our Solaris box which has Ingres installed.

What's the best terminal emulation software to use?     Is there
any decent free software?

What are the best TERM_INFO settings to sensibly map the PC's keyboard in
to something usable in the ingres character based visual tools?

I'm sure I've seen ISQL in colour when I was on a course at CA a few year
s back,  how was this achieved?

Your opinions please!

Cheers,

Michael

[Philip Lewis]

Post by M.Cressey
I use a PC to access our Solaris box which has Ingres installed.
What's the best terminal emulation software to use? Is there any
decent free software?

I use putty (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty) for
most of my outgoing windows connections.

Once that's made, I tunnel X11/VNC back over the ssh link.

Post by M.Cressey
What are the best TERM_INFO settings to sensibly map the PC's keyboard
into something usable in the ingres character based visual tools?

My TERM_INGRES is set to vt100fx.... i usually have few problems
running various stock ingres term applications... but i only use a few
of them regularly. The most annoying thing is on notebook keyboards
which do not have a true keypad. The ESC-OP trick is handy though. ;)

[Karl & Betty Schendel]

Post by M.Cressey
I use a PC to access our Solaris box which has Ingres installed.
What¹s the best terminal emulation software to use? Is there any d

ecent free software?

PuTTY works fine. I personally use either CRT (with the vt102 emulation)
or PuTTY. Both work pretty well with TERM_INGRES=vt100f.
These two aren't the only options by any means.
Pretty much any terminal emulator that does a reasonably accurate
vt100-ish emulation will work.

If you don't like the vt100f style function key mappings, then you're
more on your own. Lots of emulators will do vt2xx but the keyboard is
different. Unless you need something specific, I'd stick with vt100f.

xterm-like emulators usually work fine from a display standpoint,
but I never know what I'm going to get in terms of function keys.

Post by M.Cressey
I¹m sure I¹ve seen ISQL in colour when I was on a course at CA a few

years back, how was this achieved?

It was probably a color xterm emulation. Or at least, some sort of
emulator that understands the ANSI color control sequences.
It might also have been the "ibmpc" direct screen write emulation from
a windows command prompt, which does some color stuff.

I'd have to check the manual (it's been a long time), but I think that
any TERM_INGRES setting that has ya, yb, etc definitions in the
Ingres termcap entry will do color.

Karl

[Paul Mason]

Post by M.Cressey
Hi, I thought I'd start a new thread to ask these questions.
I use a PC to access our Solaris box which has Ingres installed.
What's the best terminal emulation software to use? Is there any decent
free software?

I use QVT term - which is sadly defunct (you can still find it a few
places on the net if you search hard enough). Also occasionally puTTY.
Others I know of are CRT or Teraterm.

Post by M.Cressey
What are the best TERM_INFO settings to sensibly map the PC's keyboard into
something usable in the ingres character based visual tools?

Usually VT100f - which means using the keypad for most functions, F1
is the menu key and NumLock -> - are PF1-PF4.

Post by M.Cressey
I'm sure I've seen ISQL in colour when I was on a course at CA a few years
back, how was this achieved?

You just need a terminal emulator that does ansi colour codes and a
TERM_INGRES setting that understands them.

Inspired by this thread I did a little playing. Using puTTY with these settings:

under Terminal, Keyboard choose Control-H for backspace
also choose SCO for "Function keys and keypad"

then set TERM_INGRES to ansif

Under Window, Colours you can change the mapping of ANSI colours to
real colours if you like. Might also want to change the font.

Post by M.Cressey
Your opinions please!
Cheers,
Michael

[Roy Hann]

Post by M.Cressey
Hi, I thought I'd start a new thread to ask these questions.
I use a PC to access our Solaris box which has Ingres installed.
What's the best terminal emulation software to use? Is there any
decent free software?

Lots of folk have suggested some free emulations, but if you are willing to
spend money then the best (and most faithful) VTxxx emulation is KEA!420
from Attachmate.

It's a good soul-mate for Ingres; it was always far-and-away the best
product of its kind, but it lost market-share (and mind-share) to the more
heavily promoted Reflection in the early 90s, for no obvious reason. (Maybe
it was just because the earlier DOS version had a completely unpronounceable
name: ZSTEMpc-220!)

However, I don't see why you'd want to bother with terminal emulation at all
if you just want to talk to Ingres on the Sun box. Just download r3, create
a vnode, and use the Ingres tools locally on the PC. And if you don't like
the colour scheme or the key mapping (and who could?), then ten minutes
alone with the termcap file and the map file will be enough to make it see
sense.

Roy